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Post by manta on Dec 8, 2004 12:57:07 GMT -5
We recently had 2 divers on the boat (for 4 days) and I mentioned that if they wanted a stamp for their logbooks, we had one in the shop. The woman commented "I quit using a logbook 20 years ago." She also happened to have a particularly unsafe (in my eyes, at least) of wearing her weightbelt with the buckle over her hip. I might not write much in my logbook - diving the same sites over & over...I DO log them though. It's also an account of the time I've spent on the boat, so I'll have it documented when I'm ready to go to Sea School & get a USCG license. What are the board opinions on log books? I fully intend to keep mine up - I tend to forget cool things, and should I revisit a site, I can go back & see what it was about. Let the comments fly  -kim |
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san
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Dive ever - work never!
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Post by san on Dec 9, 2004 3:29:03 GMT -5
I write the log book only when I dive like a tourist ;D or for the first time on one site! I like to write what I saw and about the place where I dove, it's like a diary for me... and I like the stamps  . When I dive for work, allways on the same place, again and again...  ... then I download the data from my diving computer to the notebook! OK I do that even when I write the log book. And when I download the data I write only where did I dive, buddy, and if there is something to say about this dive I can write a few sentences in this program, file... I use the Aladin and the program is Data Trak! And my opinion about the log books in general is that they are great (like "external memories", like to see how many dives you made, like that other diving centres can see your diving experience and because of other things...) but if divers don't want to write it, how you can force them??? you can't...  |
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viking
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burn the desk and get wet.
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Post by viking on Dec 9, 2004 4:27:01 GMT -5
True words, you can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink !! same for me on this one i only put something in when it's a new site etc
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Post by manta on Dec 9, 2004 6:47:44 GMT -5
I used to have a downloadable computer, but I didn't have the interface..and now that I"m still awating word if they will fix it because THEY screwed up (the Stinger I posted about in the "gearheads" forum)....I'm diving computerless  Once I dove with a dive op in Marathon (in the Florida Keys) and I had signed up for a deep dive on a wreck called the Thunderbolt - they wanted to see my logbook to see 2 things - 1: when was my last dive and 2: when was my last DEEP dive. I didn't have anything to worry about, as I wasn't working as a divemaster (I showed them my Advanced card rather than my AI card), but I had been diving recently. I wonder how they would have handled that couple that was diving with us? One guy that was diving with us solo (he didn't bring a buddy - but as I lead the dives and we go in a group, it's not a problem) and his SSI logbook had a neat thing at the bottom of the 'comments' section - "Thngs that I could have done differently to make this dive better". WHen I first started diving, I had a section in the back of my homemade logbook where I wrote just that - incorrect weighting, tank strap slid (cheap one that had to get wet before it stayed put), forgot a goody bag....whatever. For new divers, I think it's a great idea and I have to say I applaud SSI for adding that little bit. I really do NOT like the rest of the logbook page - to cluttered (as is PADI's) - but that's a neat thing to have. I gave up on commercial logbook pages - too cluttered...so I went to Kinkos (a copy place) and got my own design done with pages cut to fit the notebook I was using and printed on water-resistant paper. -k |
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Post by LSDeep on Dec 9, 2004 8:31:32 GMT -5
logbooks are for sissies afraid of getting wet!!! ;D ;D ;D ok just kidding. i stopped more or less logging with an even 9000 and the last years just make some notes about divesites i didnt dive before. but fore my students and clients i usually enforce it. like no logbook --> checkout dive . my students usually believe that they have to have one till they are CD, when they leave me  <-- the enforcer ;D. and as we all know that means for 99.9999999999% for the rest of their diving days! |
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Post by mobbls on Dec 9, 2004 18:12:12 GMT -5
Log books are very important. They give the reference information to the diver when diving under certain conditions, about certain sites, and buddies. I have my students fill out logs together so that they can help eachother remember info, or things they saw. This lets them realize how important the logs are. As for the dive tours, half the people don't travel with logs, and they are taken to very easy spots because I don't have proof of their skills.  As an instructor, i don't always complete a full log, but note dates, times, depth, activity and students for my own reference. For fun dives, i write a full log, so that I can look back on the vacation and remeber that there are still fun vacations. |
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san
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Dive ever - work never!
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Post by san on Dec 10, 2004 2:26:19 GMT -5
Off topic!!!! Have you notice how crazy we are?!? We do diving for living (job), and when we go on holidays, we go to dive again!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by manta on Dec 10, 2004 8:06:23 GMT -5
NO kidding! People that live here on island leave this island & go to another one...same sort of thing |
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steve75
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Post by steve75 on Dec 15, 2004 11:06:00 GMT -5
We also have to keep in mind,that not filling out logbooks at least with students is (with PADI) a break of standards.It actually says for each dive in the end fill out and sign logbooks.I think if we do with our students,they will get used to it and keep it up.
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